Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phoenix Games
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Cirt (talk) 00:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I've been looking for sources for both the company and its games, but the best I can find is the short Jostiq article. No full reviews or anything. I think this firmly falls on the unnotable side of WP:COMPANY Marasmusine (talk) 11:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. Marasmusine (talk) 11:17, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:55, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Sources They are listed on ign [1] and Gamespy (same thing in a way) [2]. They also gives reviews of their games [3][4], as do Gamestats [5] and Joystiq [6] but the definitive resource seems to be on Gamefaqs [7], by that I mean they have a page each for all hundred or so games with shots of the covers and a few sentences describing. mmosite lists a Phoenix Games but not the same company [8] but it is not the same company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RTG (talk • contribs)
- Thanks for the links, but none of them show significant coverage in reliable, independent publications. They are directory entries and summaries. The Joystiq link is interesting (I already used it in the article) but trivially short. Marasmusine (talk) 19:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, this company. :) I have enjoyed looking through their catalog for laughs, but unlike other companies such as Data Design Interactive I've seen absolutely no coverage of the company or its games until now. Listings on IGN/GameSpy/GameStats and similar sites don't really count because it only means that the game exists. Once you arrive at those sites you should check for actual coverage: news, previews, reviews, previews, etc. Your GameStats link showed no reviews, and that seems to be the case for most of Phoenix Games' games. So unless more sources can be found, I think I'm going to have to support deletion. Reach Out to the Truth 21:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:51, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. One has to realize that sites like IGN, GameSpot, etc. have "database entries" for literally everything video game-related out there. (For example, you can get a Google result on GameSpot in which the summary says "Foo for Bar - GameSpot offers reviews, previews, cheats, and more. Count on us for all of the latest on the Foo Bar Game.", but then there's absolutely nothing there besides perhaps who released the game and when.) Now if someone from any of those sites did a review, story, etc. on the game that goes past you standard summary that you would see in the back of a video game box, then we can better look and see if it's significant coverage. –MuZemike 00:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - I've looked for reliable sources, and I can't find anything beyond the joystiq article. Database entries like those listed above aren't sufficient. Robofish (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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